The War is Making You Poor Act. HR 5353

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The editor wants you to dismiss this bill. Please tell your congressman to support it. Don't let it die in committee.

The bill would eliminate the federal income tax on the first $35,000 of all Americans' earnings. That means anyone earning $35K per year or less would pay no federal income tax, and those earning more than $35K would pay taxes only on the amount in excess.

http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-orlando/house-bill-hr-5353-would-...

[Ed Note: Yawwwwn. There will never be enough money to pay for what we've incurred debt on. The only cure will be to tear it down and start over. But that won't happen. Still, those who depend on a "free ride" from the government probably need to feel the pinch too. Then they'll quit electing people who freely mismanage their money. Don't you think?]

freely mismanage their money???

WHO in Congress does anything for free?
It seems to me the ones elected are the ones who are independent of "feeling any pinch" with all that "influence" and pensions after they are "booted"
The middle class will pay for the fat cat liars, that is fact!
One thing is for sure, they do not care about anyone but themselves.

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WASHINGTON—Citing a desire to gain influence in Washington, the American people confirmed Friday that they have hired high-powered D.C. lobbyist Jack Weldon of the firm Patton Boggs to help advance their agenda in Congress.

Known among Beltway insiders for his ability to sway public policy on behalf of massive corporations such as Johnson & Johnson, Monsanto, and AT&T, Weldon, 53, is expected to use his vast network of political connections to give his new client a voice in the legislative process.

Weldon is reportedly charging the American people $795 an hour.

"Unlike R.J. Reynolds, Pfizer, or Bank of America, the U.S. populace lacks the access to public officials required to further its legislative goals," a statement from the nation read in part. "Jack Weldon gives us that access."

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http://www.theonion.com/articles/american-people-hire-highpowered-lobbyi...

Nazis were socialists

If you haven't noticed, our elections are rigged. Our 2 party system is rigged. So it's doesn't matter if you are a republican or a democrat, they are both working along with corporations toward the same national-socialist goal; to remove the citizen of their constitutional rights. We are headed in that direction whether you like it or not.

Agencies like the DEA, FBI, IRS think the Federal government mandates supersede state's sovereignty. Even the DHS are ready to label constitutionalists are terrorists.

What are you going to do about it? Put on your jackboots and chant that USA is #1 just like the rest of them?

[Ed Note: See here's where I break with you. I don't believe it is anyone's goal "to remove the citizen of their constitutional right." I'm not denying that this is sometimes the end result--but I don't think it's an overt act.

We have so many policy-making-minded people with diverse opinions that when you put them all together, the end result is exactly what you outline. For instance, you have some FBI guys who believe they need broad powers to do warrantless wiretaps on any (every) poor schmuck they want anytime they want. There is no evil intent here--there's a desire to be able to discharge a legitimate duty more effectively. But they're wrong. Not evil. Just wrong.

I realize that is of little comfort to the poor schmuck who accidentally ends up getting caught up in a broad net. But hopefully we'll get a handle on it before we end up screwing the pooch too badly.]

Not the goal???

That is the main goal....
Not overtly, but indeed covertly! They are systematically and purposefully denying Americans their constitutional rights ALL THE TIME!!!

Do the boy scouts "screw the pooch"? badly indeed

And it is no accident they perpetrate on some poor schmuck, who has rights just as valid as the SMU booster or a camper at the airport. It is just uncivilized and evil, intentionally and perpetrated with malice.

The Ultimate Duty

Warrentless wiretapping leaves you and I open to abuse and goes against the true duty of law enforcement.

The ultimate duty of these Agencies including law enforcement is to uphold the constitution. I don't see them protecting anyone's rights. Illegal aliens have these rights just by being on our soil. If we don't protect these guys, who says you and I will be protected as a citizens.

The illegals are the new Jews for this century.

Everyone is trolling in the wrong waters. Blaming the Mexicans and harassing our kids because they look like "gangsters". The DISD dress code policy is blatantly anti-Hispanic, anti-urban, and institutionalizes the harassment of Catholic Hispanics. I don't see you all harassing Billy Bob because of his rebel flag belt, stetson, and ropers and to me Billy Bob dresses like an outlaw from the 1800s or the OKC Bomber.

It's not the illegals messing up your sovereignty and property rights (that's the Fed and Corporate USA).

Since the illegals can't find work in the current economy, a lot of these guys now want to go back to Mexico and can't because of the DHS system. If I was a Mexican with cash saved from working 2 jobs as a dishwasher for 10 years, I'm not going to fly even if I can afford it. TSA and DHS will confiscate my hard earned dough and ask me where I got it on a presumption that I was dealing drugs. Don't you see that it's more difficult to leave this country than it is to enter it.

It is the Federal Reserve... local law enforcement agencies that choose to harass citizens on their travels... the IRS and the alternative minimum tax scheme that should not exist in the 1st place.... the DEA, BATF and their attitude that Federal rights supersede state's rights. Our government is too big to support all their codes, common practice, rules and procedures. The whole thing is unsustainable.

If you notice how the Fed is planning quantitative easing, we are where the Weimar Republic was before they became nationalist-socialists, before they came NAZIs.

Agents even have immunity so that if they follow orders like in the ruby ridge massacre, they cannot be sued. Even the Germans didn't have that kind of immunity in the Nuremberg trials.

How can you not see it? You lived the history. You probably fought in WWII. Don't you see the similarities? You should be afraid.... very very afraid.

The government's job is to protect the poor schmuck and instead the government persecutes him for infractions that make them a lot of money and keep them in business.

The government's job is to protect the poor schmuck

AMEN!!!

[Ed Note: I would say it is the government's job to stay out of the way of the poor schmuck so he doesn't need protection against them!]

By the Way, do you have student loans that you cannot repay?

If you voted Republican and you have student loans. You shot yourself in the foot. The leadership of the House next term, John Boehner in particular, was a key player in the removal of bankruptcy and other protections for student loans, and is probably the best friend of the student loan industry. Next time vote for someone who has your interests and not the corporations.

[Ed Note: I'm not a corporation. I am not rich. I pay a huge portion of my hard-earned money in taxes. Explain to me how letting someone skate on thousands of dollars of student loans, for which I'm going to have to pay the bill, is in my best interest.]

Has nothing to do with skating

It's has a lot to do with fairness in lending. Student loan borrowers don't have the protection given to other forms of debt. Ex nihilo fees made up by predatory lenders are paid first before taking a dent out of the original debt. The end result is that the debtor can never... NEVER... be released from this debt.

It's a different game than what you think we are playing. Please keep up with the times. Your taxes go mostly to fund the military-industrial complex not special interests, and not education.

You think you are trying to get value for your tax dollars. The government can borrow from the federal reserve at any time to fund anything including education. The Federal reserve makes this money out of nothing (ex nihilo). The true purpose of the tax scheme is to limit your financial freedom.

Siding with the student loan lenders in this day and age is tantamount to endorsing slavery.

[Ed Note: There are other types of debt that bankruptcy doesn't discharge. Child support, recent taxes, a house, a car, anything else that's secured. Part of the final judgment may include a repayment plan for unsecured creditors. What caused the law to change with respect to student loans was the cry from taxpayers that kids were borrowing $150,000+ to attend expensive schools then declaring bankruptcy a day after graduation and discharging themselves from the responsibility to pay the loans back.

So siding with freeloaders is tantamount to endorsing... well... freeloading!]

ex nihilo = the USD is not on the gold standard.

You are still thinking in the terms that enslave you.

Your money came out of nothing. The lender never really had the money. He just wrote you down in the books for so much. The college did the same thing. No real tangible asset was exchanged.

If you owe something that came from nothing, then you can give them nothing.

Education should be free anyway that way only the ones that truly want to know will know. A college education in America is equivalent to a highschool education in Europe, China, and Russia. No state issued standardized test will change that fact.

Our system at the moment only inflates the concept of intelligence via a certified piece of paper and provides a reason to cheat the system. Education for the sake of attaining knowledge is no longer the purpose.

You think the debtors are freeloading. Think again. You side with the people that wish to enslave us and make them richer.. in the mean time you stay poor and wage-enslaved just like the other debt slaves. The only difference between the slaves and you is that you think the scheme is fair and impartial.

Despite what you think is right and moral and just... this doesn't change the fact that you are still a slave...albeit a slave that thinks they are free... but in essence still a slave.

By the way... there is talk that you will stay a slave well past 65. There is talk that the retirement age will be changed from 65 to 72. Ain't that a kick in the pants.

The Federal Government has Motive to Speed Default

The Federal government has been MAKING, not LOSING money on defaulted federal loans for years. In fact, they clearly make MORE money when loans default than if loans remain in good stead. I have proven this by comparison with general defaulted debt, and you can see an explanation at:

http://studentloanjustice.org/defaults-making-money.html

This is very, very important. Do you see why? If B of A was making money on defaulted subprime home mortgages, making MORE money than if the loans never defaulted, in fact, don't you think the press would consider that to be important? I do.

and another thing..

when you are bankrupt... you aren't exactly skating anywhere. Are you one of those people who lives in your vehicle while working that minimum wage job and also have your wages garnished? That bachelor degree in philosophy isn't helping you any is it.

This situation for many borrowers still is not enough to prove inability to benefit when it is clear that you aren't benefiting from that bachelors degree.

You are one of those people that needs a reset. A chance to start over.

Apparently the editor doesn't care and thinks you are skating.

[Ed Note: Hi Ron! No, quite the contrary. However, I believe you should take some personal responsibility. I'm sorry we disagree on this point.]

blind man see

People who default on student loans are typically decent citizens, who for one reason or another, were not able to capitalize on their education. Most agree that they are responsible to pay back what they borrowed, but most cannot afford to pay back the wildly increased amounts that the Federal Law has allowed to be imposed upon them. Defaulted borrowers are among those in society least able to pay back their debt. Yet, they are being forced to pay far, far more than their fair share--and largely to private corporations like Sallie Mae, who don't actually earn this wealth.

Even the forgiveness programs that are teased to teachers have a stipulation that they must not be in default to qualify for loan forgiveness. This is the catch 22 built into the system that will prevent someone from getting out of the hole.

http://www.defaultmovie.com/
http://collegeisforsuckers.com/

why doesn't the government invest in its citizens

Instead of giving hundreds of billions of our tax dollars to financial institutions in the hopes of a mythical trickle down, why doesn't the government invest in its citizens by forgiving outstanding student loans? The middle class is saddled in student debt and this will free up plenty of money to kick start our economy.

UK students riot against high tuition.

We reached the tipping point. Check out the resistance to the New World Order.

This is in London.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx5KmXlH3m8&feature=player_embedded

Here's one where they are climbing on a police van.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSPbISu8fOs&feature=player_embedded

To protest the banks, some people have decided to withdraw all their money on December 7.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0KGv3Xw0KY&feature=youtu.be

liberty or grope.
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-dallas/mark-steyn-s-liberty-or...

Add to that, South Korea fired shots at North Korea and North Korea Retaliated. Is this WWIII?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZFRzcYlUgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5j9_vM79-k&feature=fvw

The USA may have to mobilize its' military. This may be a ploy by the powers that be to make the US dollar a safe haven play.

Now THAT was some authentic

Now THAT was some authentic frontier jibberish!

[Ed Note: Great movie!]

HAHA it's real

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-5353

[Ed Note: Yeah, and you'll notice the last little green checkbox "Referred to Committee." I predict that this is the last little green checkbox that gets checked on this. There are people who buy 1,000 shares of stock in (name your favorite large company) then propose that the company be sold for the benefit of (name your favorite goofy organization). Normally, common sense reigns. Normally. Again, great conspiracy theory material.]

HR 5353

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h5353/show

H.R.5353 - War Is Making You Poor Act

To reduce the $159.3 billion from the discretionary overseas contingency operations funds in the President's fiscal year 2011 budget for operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan (without preventing use of mandatory funds from the Department of Defense budget to execute the War on Terror), and amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide individuals a "War is Making You Poor" tax credit against the savings attributable to the overseas contingency operations reduction.